Comments on: Expanding Hate Crime Legislation…Or Not http://joshanastasia.com/2007/05/04/expanding-hate-crime-legislationor-not/ Things about: Books, Music, and Being Trans Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:52:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: captain-awesome http://joshanastasia.com/2007/05/04/expanding-hate-crime-legislationor-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1585 captain-awesome Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:52:48 +0000 http://joshanastasia.com/2007/05/04/expanding-hate-crime-legislationor-not/#comment-1585 btw sorry for all the spelling errors btw
sorry for all the spelling errors

]]> By: captain-awesome http://joshanastasia.com/2007/05/04/expanding-hate-crime-legislationor-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1584 captain-awesome Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:51:45 +0000 http://joshanastasia.com/2007/05/04/expanding-hate-crime-legislationor-not/#comment-1584 Wow, what a long boring blog, no offense but it took like an hour too scroll through it. Anyway i don't know what ur taliing about but all i read was people can say what they want or something? Sure i agree but not for all of it. Anyway, I'm at school and should be looking up stuff for a project but this is pretty cool. beeter then what I have to do. A library project. ugh. I'd rather watch paint dry. really g2g. peace out person i will probably never talk to again. btw thats not my email. just a random one. Wow, what a long boring blog, no offense but it took like an hour too scroll through it. Anyway i don’t know what ur taliing about but all i read was people can say what they want or something? Sure i agree but not for all of it. Anyway, I’m at school and should be looking up stuff for a project but this is pretty cool. beeter then what I have to do. A library project. ugh. I’d rather watch paint dry. really g2g. peace out person i will probably never talk to again.
btw thats not my email.
just a random one.

]]> By: Josh http://joshanastasia.com/2007/05/04/expanding-hate-crime-legislationor-not/comment-page-1/#comment-389 Josh Fri, 04 May 2007 18:06:39 +0000 http://joshanastasia.com/2007/05/04/expanding-hate-crime-legislationor-not/#comment-389 Well...you're right. It wouldn't prevent anything. But, it would protect who they are. The whole point of this bill is to protect people for who they are. Yes, the punishments would be more severe for the crimes, but only if it actually is a hate crime. Right now, crimes against trans people aren't kept track of, because we aren't included in any hate crime bills. If we were, they FBI would have to keep track of hate crimes committed against us. All violence is pointless and ridiculous, but when a person decides that this person deserves to get the shit beaten out of them, or deserves to die for the simple fact that they are gay, a woman, disabled, transgender, black or even white, that type of crime tears at the moral fabric of our society and endangers the welfare of everyone. President Clinton once said that "All Americans deserve protection from hate." We're being denied that. Yes, we can't stop someone from hating someone, or any of their feelings, or thoughts, ideas, and words. But we can do something about violence. Even if it's just by making the punishment more severe. When the Hate Crimes Act of 2000 was passed in New York State, the legislature said this about hate crimes: <blockquote>"Hate crimes do more than threaten the safety and welfare of all citizens. They inflict on victims incalculable physical and emotional damage and tear at the very fabric of free society. Crimes motivated by invidious hatred toward particular groups not only harm individual victims but send a powerful message of intolerance and discrimination to all members of the group to which the victim belongs. Hate crimes can and do intimidate and disrupt entire communities and vitiate the civility that is essential to healthy democratic processes. In a democratic society, citizens cannot be required to approve of the beliefs and practices of others, but must never commit criminal acts on account of them. Current law does not adequately recognize the harm to public order and individual safety that hate crimes cause. Therefore, our laws must be strengthened to provide clear recognition of the gravity of hate crimes and the compelling importance of preventing their recurrence. Accordingly, the legislature finds and declares that hate crimes should be prosecuted and punished with appropriate severity."</blockquote> They say it better than I could ever say it. I should have put all this in my post...ha. Well…you’re right. It wouldn’t prevent anything. But, it would protect who they are. The whole point of this bill is to protect people for who they are. Yes, the punishments would be more severe for the crimes, but only if it actually is a hate crime. Right now, crimes against trans people aren’t kept track of, because we aren’t included in any hate crime bills. If we were, they FBI would have to keep track of hate crimes committed against us.

All violence is pointless and ridiculous, but when a person decides that this person deserves to get the shit beaten out of them, or deserves to die for the simple fact that they are gay, a woman, disabled, transgender, black or even white, that type of crime tears at the moral fabric of our society and endangers the welfare of everyone.

President Clinton once said that “All Americans deserve protection from hate.” We’re being denied that. Yes, we can’t stop someone from hating someone, or any of their feelings, or thoughts, ideas, and words. But we can do something about violence. Even if it’s just by making the punishment more severe.

When the Hate Crimes Act of 2000 was passed in New York State, the legislature said this about hate crimes:

“Hate crimes do more than threaten the safety and welfare of all citizens. They inflict on victims incalculable physical and emotional damage and tear at the very fabric of free society. Crimes motivated by invidious hatred toward particular groups not only harm individual victims but send a powerful message of intolerance and discrimination to all members of the group to which the victim belongs. Hate crimes can and do intimidate and disrupt entire communities and vitiate the civility that is essential to healthy democratic processes. In a democratic society, citizens cannot be required to approve of the beliefs and practices of others, but must never commit criminal acts on account of them. Current law does not adequately recognize the harm to public order and individual safety that hate crimes cause. Therefore, our laws must be strengthened to provide clear recognition of the gravity of hate crimes and the compelling importance of preventing their recurrence. Accordingly, the legislature finds and declares that hate crimes should be prosecuted and punished with appropriate severity.”

They say it better than I could ever say it. I should have put all this in my post…ha.

]]> By: lisa http://joshanastasia.com/2007/05/04/expanding-hate-crime-legislationor-not/comment-page-1/#comment-387 lisa Fri, 04 May 2007 16:41:57 +0000 http://joshanastasia.com/2007/05/04/expanding-hate-crime-legislationor-not/#comment-387 I don't know what to say. But yes, people should be protected from being attacked for being who they are, but the legislation won't prevent them, only get them a tougher sentence. And people who are commiting hate crimes don't think about the punishment as they do it, so I don't know if it would really deter someone. I don’t know what to say.

But yes, people should be protected from being attacked for being who they are, but the legislation won’t prevent them, only get them a tougher sentence. And people who are commiting hate crimes don’t think about the punishment as they do it, so I don’t know if it would really deter someone.

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